Fnatic
After their victory against Fnatic, we spoke to the team’s top
Since the 0-4 losing streak, you have gone 5-3, and there was some massive development recently. I'm thinking: finally, [Fnatic]
Obviously, everyone was working hard. It's just more
On stage, we saw that their Level 1 kind of sucked: "let's go invade!" Some people might ask: "Why does [Bwipo] go Doran's Blade on Yorick?" and it's because we're invading at Level 1! There's another great
Also, usually, Cabochard doesn't like leashing his buff for his
We [also] tried our best to sit around our mid lane and try to cover Nemesis – which was another weakness of ours: we don't actually cover the lanes where our enemy wants to make a play. The past few weeks, we were never really there when things happen, but this time around, Broxah was definitely keen on protecting Nemesis from potential plays. Actually, Nemesis played well: he smelled almost every single gank, and at some point, [those ganks came] from desperation.
In a way, it reminds me of 2018, where we are not necessarily proactive in our jungle pathing, in a sense that we are trying to super push our leads. We got our triple buff and whatever CS lead in the jungle, then we take that lead and translate it into something later. But honestly, 2019 is all about: "When you get a lead, you push it." That's one problem that we still have, that we didn't do today: even though we had a big jungle lead, we didn't translate it into strict river control. [Mowgli's Elise] was able to walk into it despite being much weaker. We need to get better at that. Maybe I'm saying too much by voicing a weakness.
I like that there is progress! You saw [Broxah] be behind the lane they wanted to make a play on, countering the ganks or plays – when [Jiizuke's Fizz] went for all-ins. I feel it worked out pretty well.
All in all, I feel like the game [against Vitality] could have gone either way, but it's better than our game against them
I also feel like against Vitality, if you don't mess up and don't
It's the same story all over again like last year. Every time it comes to the second half of the split, people start to realize that even if they're 4-5k gold up, they're going to end up 5v5ing
I'm not saying that they can't do anything else, they're a good team. All I'm saying is that anything they did this game was not unexpected. Anyone that was watching the game can agree with me that this was a Vitality-
I'm also looking at the situation from a broader point: you know that Vitality are going to do things very predictable. It feels less like improvising, and more like using the information to your advantage. But more importantly, you decided to take the risk, the initiative.
Let me put it this way: as a team since 2018, I feel like Fnatic has been like: "If you have a 1k gold lead, you're not going to blow that lead open. You're going to keep it." The way our team functions is that that gold lead is like having money in the bank. Instead of [being in the red], you're just taking from your account. By 15 minutes, if you haven't gone too far in the red, you're probably going to end up winning the game.
The problem in our losses was that we didn't have money in the bank. Our early game usually sucked, and we just went into the minus. By minute 15, we got too much debt to actually win. This year, we haven't been able to get better at [snowballing leads.] Rather than having 1k gold in the bank and investing it to get more money, we're just trying not to bleed. By minute 15, whatever happens, we're going to try to play a controlled game. I feel like that's mostly how respectful our players can play. For example, I dropped a lot of pressure in the top lane even though I was stronger, and we were stronger
The [mantra] that describes Fnatic's gameplay is: "don't do unnecessary things." Don't go for more when you don't have to. Sometimes, I disagree, and that's why I've tried to find myself.
Honestly, this year has been pretty tough, because Caps was very much about doing the unnecessary thing, and in that sense, we lost a bit of that sense. Nemesis goes more with the flow: he makes a decision based on every single game. It's not like every time he gets an opportunity, he goes for more turrets and more kills; he'll play more controlled and smart. For the way we end up playing the game, that's good. But it's difficult because, basically, you have nobody pushing Broxah. In the past, it was Caps pushing him [to take fights], but that person is gone. When no one is pushing him to fight, sometimes it looks like our early-game kind of sucks and we aren't doing anything. That's how I feel.
That's just the way we are now, and I think it's fine. But whether I'm happy with it, I don't know. If we end up winning another split or go to the Worlds finals again, I can't argue. But that's how it feels: we went to the Worlds finals with this idea, and we got smashed. It was awful. I can tell you right now: if we went to Worlds finals right now again, the exact same way, I'm not sure I would be happy about it knowing what I know now. Would I take it? Every day of the week. If you tell me right now that I'm going to the Worlds finals and losing 0-3, I'm signing that right now. But–
You would still be losing 3-0.
Not even about losing 3-0. It's just about knowing what I
Okay, gears are grinding in my head.
I said a lot of things! That's what I do in interviews: I saw a lot of things that people should know but don't, because I feel like they don't pay enough attention. There's a lot of weaknesses that I can see in our team just watching us play, and if other teams haven't seen them, good for us.
But I mean, just like you saw Vitality have that predictable aspect to them, other teams could go: "Fnatic have this-and-that." That's also possible, not necessarily fear, but
It's not, it's more of a personality thing. I feel like I've basically conceded my lane two games in a row now, and I'm probably going to end up conceding my lane in the next few weeks. It's not something I feel good about doing, but it's just something I feel is necessary because we are not good enough at facilitating leads in the top lane nor creating them. Whether I will or not is something I will see next week: it's something very much based on my own feelings.
It's just the way [Fnatic] plays. It's the reason why sOAZ, for example, has been considered that guy that gives up his lane and gets praised for doing that. But
I think a change of pace is always good, and I guess sOAZ no longer has to systematically concede and be on an island. I think something similar happened with Odoamne last year even. Are you recognizing the signs that maybe it's your turn?
No. It's not my turn. Obviously, if you're insane as a player, and you carry every game, you get a carry champion, and your team is going to play around you. This is
It's just easier [at the moment:] your top
That's been one of the reasons why G2 has been doing so well and considered to be the best by far: they don't have that
Asterisk that also says: "Jayce flex, what up!" Just because
I feel like any team can. Schalke 04 can flex Jayce on three roles. I think we can do it if we want to, but it's just a matter
Considering the topics we've visited, there has been a LOT that has been said. But what would you add to the Fnatic part that I didn't cover
I think we're putting a band-aid on the biggest problems. It's working out, and I think we're going to continue doing it. I don't think it's necessarily going to fix it on a large scale. We'll have small fixes – smaller band-aids rather than bigger ones, let me put it that way. It's not like I have to play Ornn or Sion every game and [hard-concede], I can pick Yorick and still be useful later. That's a much better idea, I guess.
We would like to thank Bwipo once again for his straightforward and candid answers regarding Fnatic and himself. The team will be facing Schalke 04 and Rogue on Week 7, and they might move even closer to a playoff spot that seemed out of reach early on during the season.
(Photos credit from Riot Games)
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level 1 Derryck_Larsson
Great interview, thanks for the insightful article! :)